Kim and Lark discuss Sunday evening's debate at Rider University which transcended a clash of personalities; it served as a fundamental referendum on New Jersey's future. Congresswoman Mikie Sherrill presented a pragmatic vision centered on affordability and equity. Her opponent, Jack Ciattarelli, offered a contrasting approach—a CEO-style proposal that felt less like a blueprint for governance and more like a technical discourse based in imaginary theory on fiscal policy. The sanewashing of Ciattarelli’s blatant transphobia and antiblack rhetoric was an especially revealing dynamic in the debate’s aftermath